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#10125 - 09/17/02 02:34 PM 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor
Liquid Offline
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Registered: 06/17/02
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Loc: calgary, alberta , canada
i found an artical in Hotrod engines about this monster
no blower no NoS no super charger !!!!!!! AND only a singel 4 bbl carb
It is a 565 cid on 91 octane it idels at 900 rpm and maxs out at 7100 rpm but get this @ 6000 rpm the beast is makin 1000 HP
dyno charts dont lie do they ?
could you imagine this powerplant in a bogger? with 2.5 ton rockwells and 44 + tires?
ill hand this over to wolf ( is it tim that works at westworld ?)to post up the articals and specs
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#10126 - 09/17/02 05:59 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: Liquid]
Fry Offline
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Registered: 09/09/02
Posts: 173
Loc: Duchess
It sounds great but you'd probably have to tear it down and rebuild it 3-4 times a month.
My brother knows this guy who drives a actual monster truck, if the oil is a little different color he rebuilds it, btw 1600hps on Alcohol.
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#10127 - 09/17/02 06:41 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: Fry]
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Registered: 06/07/02
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Loc: Calgary Alberta
If you read the article more you find it is $30,000 american and if used a auto tranny would need a 5000 stall converter. Nice motor though
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#10128 - 09/17/02 11:39 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: Goliath]
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Loc: calgary, alberta , canada
yea i never got that far in the artical - GF wanted to get going
hehe guess ill read more b4 i post anything next time - but the ole brain was tickin lol
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#10129 - 09/18/02 03:11 AM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: Liquid]
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Registered: 06/11/02
Posts: 197
Loc: Fort McMurray Alberta
I run a 462 chev. Valves float at 8400, but the motor's balanced to 9200..... 525 horse, 600 pounds of torque, 2800 RPM stall converter, idles between 750-900, single 4 barrel carb, (CAN run 87 octane, but you have to retard the hell out of the timing)

Where I live, I'm a big fan of horsepower. There's not much finessing your way through anything up here really. As an aside, you don't need to run a 5000 RPM converter unless used in a drag application. You wouldn't be able to stop your tires from spinning.. You want your tires to begin rotation a while before peak performance, but slightly after your engine builds power so as to maintain some semblance of a trail rig. If you were mud-racing however, it'd be nice to blow your tires up in smoke just before peak performance (it'll equate to higher tire speeds, and typically faster times)

just under 28,000 for my engine.
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#10130 - 09/18/02 06:34 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: MR4WD]
Goliath Offline
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Registered: 06/07/02
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Loc: Calgary Alberta
Peak torque of a engine dictates the stall speed needed for a converter.
Liqiud I by no means meant to shoot you down, I would love to have this motor to but why build a motor to run on pump gas that would be only for the strip.
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#10131 - 09/18/02 09:34 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: Goliath]
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Registered: 06/17/02
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Loc: calgary, alberta , canada
no no i never thought you shot me down lol and i agree with you- i jus thought i should read more b4 i post things lol my reaction is always faster then my brain well not always
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#10132 - 09/18/02 09:47 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: MR4WD]
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Registered: 06/11/02
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Loc: calgary
Hey mr 4wd, you should come out to some of our mud bogs.you would fit right in! with that kind of money in your engine you should make some money at races with it.

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#10133 - 09/18/02 09:51 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: Fry]
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Loc: calgary
Hey FRY who does your brother know that has the monster truck that makes 1600 hp?

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#10134 - 09/19/02 10:27 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: FOLKAUTO]
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Registered: 06/11/02
Posts: 197
Loc: Fort McMurray Alberta
Deal, I'll go. You be my sponsor, and come pick me up. Last time I drove to Edmonton, it cost me 240 dollars. I drove back for 280... (433k one way). That doesn't factor in bogger wear, tranny heat, and tie rod ends wearing out after 2000K... With a truck like this, I can't even to rent a U-haul to pull my ass around. I hate reading about all the races I miss on here. I'll be at an event some day
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#10135 - 09/19/02 10:36 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: Liquid]
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Loc: Fort McMurray Alberta
Goliath, you don't need a high RPM stall converter for 4x4ing. You don't want the engine to be redlining just to putt around the trail. You want a WAY lower RPM. For more than just a few reasons... You want to have your tires turning before your power band (so as not to start digging holes instantaneously). It's nice to have your power on tap when you really roll onto the throttle and already have your tires spinning (just to get em moving faster) You want some semblance of good mileage. Overall, it makes for better trailability. By all means however, throw an engine in your truck that makes 800 horse at 7000 RPM, and put in a 6500 stall converter.

Drag racing, is another story altogether. You want optimum hookup at your engine's highest output level, because it takes power to move through 1,320' in a respectable time. If you put power to the wheels too early, you'd spend too much time getting into your powerband, where as if it were too late you'd spend too much time winding out your engine and shifting gears.
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#10136 - 09/21/02 12:14 AM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: MR4WD]
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Registered: 06/11/02
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Loc: calgary
I tow my truck to the races,i'm not sure what you mean by ( a truck like this) but all my race trucks fit on a trailer! i would never drive a race truck to the track.(if it is out of town)and when i win i give the money back to the track for supporting the sport!.

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#10137 - 09/21/02 08:54 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: FOLKAUTO]
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Loc: Fort McMurray Alberta
By a truck like this I mean, big, heavy, lots of horsepower, boggers to vibrate everything loose etc.... It's my daily driver, so saving money/driving that is sort of an oxymoron. I'm working on it though, hopefully next year (I've been saying that for 3 years)
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#10138 - 09/23/02 12:38 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: MR4WD]
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you drive a truck with a 25000.00 dollar motor as a daily driver? Dude you realize you can pick up an old chev and car hauler for nothin right?well maybe several thousand but still.

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#10139 - 09/23/02 01:01 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: FOLKAUTO]
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Registered: 09/09/02
Posts: 173
Loc: Duchess
FolkAuto, I'm not exactly sure. I'm pretty sure he said 1600hp, but could be wrong. Hes from the hat and its apparently the same type has big foot and all those. I haven't seen it but theres only a few in Canada that can run in the same asscoiation like NHRA or whatever the us monster trucks run in and his truck is one of them or something.
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#10140 - 09/23/02 01:11 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: Fry]
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Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 371
Loc: Calgary, Alberta, Canada
If he's from Medicine Hat that would be Ged Barcroft and the Sheer Insanity Monster Truck. I know they just sprung for Merlin heads but I have no idea what kind of pony power the Janke <sp?> engine produces!
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#10141 - 09/23/02 09:10 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: MissBehavin]
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Registered: 06/07/02
Posts: 139
Loc: Foremost
I think 1500 ponies but may be wrong.

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#10142 - 09/23/02 09:52 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: Insaine]
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Loc: calgary
maybe 1300 with merlin heads if set up!

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#10143 - 09/24/02 02:09 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: FOLKAUTO]
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Loc: Duchess
My brother told me 2years ago or so, so its a little fuzzy. He works with him. Maybe it was 1200hp and cost $6000. I'll find out next time I talk to him.
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#10144 - 09/24/02 06:46 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: Fry]
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Registered: 06/11/02
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Loc: calgary
i'll take 5 of them at $6000.i think twister will too!

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#10145 - 09/24/02 07:25 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: FOLKAUTO]
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sign me up! hey at $6000 dollars I'll through one in my deck truck just to make the trip to races faster. I believe when all is said and done that motor (I know this is a huge range but)is around 15-25000 dollars. I think it was more the 25 side though..can't remeber.

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#10146 - 09/24/02 07:41 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor
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For sure at least 25K iv'e heard some in the 50k range, just thought it might put out 1500 ponies cause that's what both Don Frankishes put out. ????
$6000 that would be a sweet deal.

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#10147 - 09/24/02 07:43 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: FOLKAUTO]
Fry Offline
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Registered: 09/09/02
Posts: 173
Loc: Duchess
I just talked to my bro and its a 56...something with 1600hps and cost $60,000 to build. It runs on Alcohol. The guys name is Jed and the trucks name is Shear Insanity.
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#10148 - 09/24/02 08:08 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: Fry]
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#10149 - 09/25/02 12:43 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: White_Knight]
Anonymous
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ok I'll admitt .I don't know shit about motors.They cost a but load for real horse power. I've seen a 1500 hp 377 than ran on c-28 i think .78000 dollars.I almost shit.

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#10150 - 11/26/02 06:22 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor
donavon Offline
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Registered: 11/01/02
Posts: 4
Loc: CANADA
Hey Clayton. That 377 cid chevy made 1560hp on alcohol with 38psi of boost. Money is no object to this man. It is in a car that currently holds a NHRA record of 6.51seconds@209 mph.

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#10151 - 11/28/02 11:13 AM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: MR4WD]
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Registered: 09/23/02
Posts: 185
Loc: Calgary,Alberta,Canada
MR4WD 8400RPM balanced to 9200rpm!!!! what internals are you running in this thing i'm really interested to find out and do your heads make power at that rpm? just curious fill me in on your combo! thanks

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#10152 - 11/28/02 11:16 AM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: PONTIAC]
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Registered: 09/23/02
Posts: 185
Loc: Calgary,Alberta,Canada
Oh if you want Ii run an engine shop in Calgary we would be willing to give you a free dyno day on our engine dyno just to see it go to 8400 rpm!!!

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#10153 - 11/28/02 06:54 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: PONTIAC]
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Registered: 06/11/02
Posts: 197
Loc: Fort McMurray Alberta
Christ, it's been 4 years since the oil pan's been off of that engine, and about 3 since I've had the receipts stating what's in it.

"Hell if I know" in all honesty... The engine falls flat on it's face at 6500 or so, but that's partly ignition, partly heads stop flowing.

Get me a set of heads (I'm leaning towards holley) and a new cam, pull it out of the truck and bring it down to calgary from my house and you've got yourself a deal.

For the time being, I'm saving my pennies for a set of assembled heads, new cam and a base for a 6-71 (small, I know, but can we say free?)

With a 900 stall converter, the engine would roast the tires from a stop into 3rd gear (through a 400, and 14 w/5.13's)
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#10154 - 11/30/02 12:57 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: MR4WD]
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Registered: 09/05/02
Posts: 414
Loc: Calgary AB Canada
Ahhh yes 'Bar stool' horsepower is often diffrent than 'Dyno' horsepower...
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#10155 - 11/30/02 02:02 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: MR4WD]
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Registered: 06/11/02
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Loc: calgary
you mean a 1900 stall don't you?

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#10156 - 12/01/02 12:50 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: FOLKAUTO]
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God, I hope so...or 2900
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#10157 - 12/01/02 08:21 PM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: FOLKAUTO]
MR4WD Offline
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Registered: 06/11/02
Posts: 197
Loc: Fort McMurray Alberta
HAH! Nope, that was with the stock 900 stall. I went against my own lousy judgement and put a super heavy duty stocker in. Now, it's got a 2800 converter.... Before, the truck would get it's ass kicked launching, and just barely throw mud. Now, it's a super hard launcher and it throws mud for 60 feet or so.
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#10158 - 12/02/02 12:41 AM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: MR4WD]
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Registered: 06/11/02
Posts: 549
Loc: calgary
a stock bbc converter is 1800 rpm stall! 900 is to low for anything!

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#10159 - 12/02/02 12:48 AM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: FOLKAUTO]
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Loc: Fort McMurray Alberta
Well, it's actually supposed to be an Allison 5spd torque converter, which works with a TH400. I know very little about trannies, and even less about torque converters. I was told it was 900 RPM. How come you can buy 1200-1500 RPM converters? Why would you want to launch at a lower RPM than stock?
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#10160 - 12/02/02 12:55 AM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: MR4WD]
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Registered: 06/11/02
Posts: 549
Loc: calgary
i've never heard of 1200-1500 converters but i will ask my buddy from ricks racing tranny's tomorrow at lunch.he's the TH400 man around here!

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#10161 - 12/02/02 01:19 AM Re: 1050 HP 900 LBs of tourqe motor [Re: FOLKAUTO]
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Registered: 06/11/02
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Loc: Fort McMurray Alberta
Ask him about Stage 2 transgo shift kits... Are they supposed to be able to lock the tranny in 1st, while 1st is selected? Or, will they let the governor run the tranny into 2nd?
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