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#62364 - 09/20/03 11:09 PM
557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Registered: 08/30/03
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Okay all the big block ford boys , my future plan for my 79 bronco include a 557 Stroker for power and torque or as Tim the tool man Taylor would say "OH OH OH!!!!!!!!!!" Give me your feed back boys, please .O ya it also will have--------
"""""""OVER 600 FT. LBS. OF TORQUE""""""""""""""""""
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#62365 - 09/20/03 11:16 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lowtech Redneck
Registered: 09/23/02
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Holy crap, good luck with that. What block would you be starting with and what's going to be the over-bore? That'd be killer.
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#62366 - 09/21/03 10:51 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Demon it is a kit the it ain't cheap $3000 ish US plus paying for the engine man to do it
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#62367 - 09/21/03 01:28 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Lowtech Redneck
Registered: 09/23/02
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Big bucks, but that's a friggin big engine.
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#62368 - 09/21/03 03:18 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Re: DEMON]
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Why only the 557? I am sure if you can get the part numbers you can get the 600 Cubes from SVT.
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#62369 - 09/21/03 03:19 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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May as well buy a 528 hemi  Only like $12,500 US for a crate engine
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#62370 - 09/21/03 03:56 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hey fordy where some info on 600 svt so i can compare/
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#62371 - 09/21/03 03:58 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Re: Goldilocks]
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is lokicja a dodge man HEMI in a ford I just don't think i could do that!
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#62372 - 09/22/03 12:31 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *DELETED*
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#62373 - 09/23/03 12:59 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thanks hairy_kanary, all imput is welcome.current 470-weiand stealth intake, cam-493--503,dove c heads new,780 holley doublbepumper, L&L headers. this should go but i want bigger.i want to be the big ford in town. Off road toy not a racer. i won't be spending no $50000. send back further suggestions?
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#62374 - 09/23/03 01:20 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i agree with hairy kanary i went the same path and bought a 514 stroker.thinking the rest of the drivetrain would be able to hold up.wrong. so the quickest way out was to sell the kit.so i did.must be nice to have deeeeep pockets.
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#62375 - 09/23/03 02:28 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *DELETED*
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<< But Occifer...Sawmill blades are DOT approved in BC >>
Wigger Claw at ya... \m/
Dammit! I went past the giant connecting rod!!! Now what???
**Pardon me....would an assratchet fix the big crack in your ass?**
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#62376 - 09/23/03 03:01 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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good point on the easy HP hairy kanary.it never phased me that some of the big boys on the block run small blocks in stuff like toyotas rangers s10s and are more that capable of keeping up with the big blocks.i 've seen so many of the small blocked rangers that look and handle awsome that i'd love to build a small block prerunner 2wd ranger.that'd be cool.
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#62377 - 09/23/03 10:20 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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okay boys the compression is 9.5 or 10.5 to 1.It is studded and girdled. drivetrain is c6 auto, dana 60's , 5.13's, 6" suspension, 40" mudders. Not ever plann ing to go to small truck. We really want badass. Ilike all suggestion and ideas. keep them coming to help me make this bronco rock . thanks
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#62378 - 09/23/03 10:57 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *DELETED*
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<< But Occifer...Sawmill blades are DOT approved in BC >>
Wigger Claw at ya... \m/
Dammit! I went past the giant connecting rod!!! Now what???
**Pardon me....would an assratchet fix the big crack in your ass?**
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#62379 - 09/24/03 01:14 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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hairy_ kanary i will get back to you with the exact compression, but NITROUS on a off road mud toy that is not going to enter any races? If a smaller truck blows my doors off i can deal with it because in my opinion that truck is not considered the same type of rig. What do you figoure the cost out there is to do the 557 NOT FOR COMPETITION but for badass staus quoe?
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#62380 - 09/24/03 02:46 AM
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<< But Occifer...Sawmill blades are DOT approved in BC >>
Wigger Claw at ya... \m/
Dammit! I went past the giant connecting rod!!! Now what???
**Pardon me....would an assratchet fix the big crack in your ass?**
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#62381 - 09/24/03 04:09 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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since there's a difference in opinions here how about each one of you build your engines the way YOU build it go down to the drag strip or bog and settle it.
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#62382 - 09/24/03 08:43 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *DELETED*
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<< But Occifer...Sawmill blades are DOT approved in BC >>
Wigger Claw at ya... \m/
Dammit! I went past the giant connecting rod!!! Now what???
**Pardon me....would an assratchet fix the big crack in your ass?**
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#62383 - 09/24/03 09:45 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old and Busted
Registered: 06/09/02
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So what are you building this truck for?
mud racing? Trail running? What is the purpose of the vehicle and what do you want it to be "badass" at?
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#62384 - 09/24/03 11:31 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wolf359, from my perspective, he wants something big loud, and can say he's got more cubes than the rest of us. I bet you that it'll die the first time he revs it over 3000... By the way, How much torque does your crate engine have?
600ft-lbs of torque? Wow jeez, that's huge 
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#62385 - 09/24/03 11:39 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *DELETED*
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<< But Occifer...Sawmill blades are DOT approved in BC >>
Wigger Claw at ya... \m/
Dammit! I went past the giant connecting rod!!! Now what???
**Pardon me....would an assratchet fix the big crack in your ass?**
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#62386 - 09/24/03 11:41 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#62387 - 09/25/03 12:34 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wolf359 it is to be a big block trail rig that i want to fly when i put my foot into it. no hesitation just launch wanting tonnes of power and torque.
so say for the following $$ give what to expect and recemendations in each---$5000
--$10000
--$15000
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#62388 - 09/25/03 12:52 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Okay, this is from my "little engine experience"
For your purpose, I think a big block is silly. Wanting a gas pig (you may as well hire a tanker to be there for the weekend) just so you can have more cubes than everyone is just dumb. As much as I love muscle, that's dumb.
It's the same concept as building a HUGE rig for city driving, cause big tires look cool.
Edit - By the way, trucks don't "Fly" unless they're rails. If you want a speed demon, build a 71 Nova. If you want a wheeling rig with power, build a 400 horse engine, get good diffs, with good gears, twin tcases, and some 40s and link it. Then you'll have a GOOD truck, and it'll be only a little bit more cash than building a $10,000 motor. Oh, and your truck might actually last 10 minutes.
Most HiPo engines (low cost anyway) get bolted to LoPo drivetrains, and the owner spends $$$$$$ to beef up the rest of the dt.
Edited by LokiCJA (09/25/03 12:55 AM)
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#62389 - 09/25/03 01:15 AM
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<< But Occifer...Sawmill blades are DOT approved in BC >>
Wigger Claw at ya... \m/
Dammit! I went past the giant connecting rod!!! Now what???
**Pardon me....would an assratchet fix the big crack in your ass?**
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#62390 - 09/25/03 01:17 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#62391 - 09/25/03 11:45 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well I will jump in and give my .02 I have a said "big cubed" ford engine and I hope your pockets are deep. Do yourself a big favor go talk to a race engine builder (not your local parts store) Do your homework on the complete build up and if you have this engine built have enough money on hand for repairs. As for Nitrous I firmly beleive everything should be on juice, I have it on my bogger my street truck my sandrail and soon to be on my sled! It works on everything!!! One last thing price out a block for this monster they are huge money and not for the faint at heart. In the engine building department Hairy Kanary has been there and done that, experience is a huge asset in everything. Good luck oh and take video of the first time out!!
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#62392 - 09/25/03 01:10 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why not just drop in a 514 crate motor and add a 150 shot of NAWWWWWWS  ok lets be reasonable here..... have you heard of the trickle down effect? thats when you over build a part of yer rig and other stuff starts breaking. I have seen what 400+ hp does to a stock D60 shaft when you add a spool (you can break them at will with 44" boggers), sure you can go 14bolt but what about the front? alloy shaft's get real pricy when you go thru 3 or 4 set's a year. Ya i know yer gonna upgrade everything but there are "reasonable" limit's of what you can expect and i dont think you can forsee all the headaches of big power, big rubber and a lead foot. Just think about a 4000lb buggy, 14bolt, D60, 514, and cut 52" michellin's, light fast and way more fun when you dont care about putting it on it's side for the camera. Yes power is fun.... more power is a freekin blast but think this thru before you break out the cheque book, power costs money in more way's than one. Hope you can get this figured out
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#62393 - 09/27/03 09:35 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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wolf359 it is to be a big block trail rig that i want to fly when i put my foot into it. no hesitation just launch wanting tonnes of power and torque.
Fly down a trail? Then my recommendations would be to build something that weighs between 3200-3800 lbs and has coilovers, because no matter what kind of power you have, if you put it in a lumber wagon, you ain't going anywhere fast on a trail.
The biggest mistake I see a lot of guys doing is pouring all their money into just the engine, which is great, but unless you put some money into your suspension, you are limited in what you can accomplish.
Since you seem to be intrigued by the sound of 557, then I suggest you listen to Hairy Kanary.
My engine puts out 560 lb/ft of torque, but it only revs to 5500. I have the rev limiter set at 5100 rpm. You DO NOT need a hi revving engine for trail running.
IF you had a 600 lb/ft engine in a buggy, AND it weighed less than 3500 lbs, AND it had a well set up link suspension, AND you were running cro-mo axles with CTM's, then you would have something REALLY badass. And you'd be about $40-50k poorer.
And if you are serious, then make sure you look at EFI or Propane.
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#62394 - 09/27/03 09:43 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Wolf, explain to him how long it took you to get your EFI setup right.
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#62395 - 10/02/03 04:01 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why put engine builders' kids through school if you don't need to? I've got a buddy that's dropped almost $40000 american on his pickelfork race boat in the last three years. An "engine builder" in Havasu helps him get 107 MPH every spring and takes more of his money. He's got a 14-71 blower with a chiller and all his money can't keep that poor big block together any longer than the chicks can keep their tops on. Last fall he gave all of it up, runs a stock ZZ502 that comes with a 1 year warranty from my parts department for $10000 and he's got 40 hours on it, not 3 or 4 before bearings. Yeah you have to pay to play, but goldilocks nobody will care how badass your rig is when it's getting towed from shop to shop or pulled out of the bush by someone with a stock rig and a big winch. Before you all roast me for comparing a race boat to your conversation, how sweet would it be to hit any dealer or retailer in north america and not have to try and choke money out of your rebuilder over the phone. Anybody can build you an engine but it's a select few who put their name on it when it counts.
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#62396 - 10/02/03 11:00 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thanks for the continuing info guys , i guess my bronco could be considered a boat to those infaor of small trucks, keep the tips coming
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#62397 - 10/02/03 11:22 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *DELETED*
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<< But Occifer...Sawmill blades are DOT approved in BC >>
Wigger Claw at ya... \m/
Dammit! I went past the giant connecting rod!!! Now what???
**Pardon me....would an assratchet fix the big crack in your ass?**
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#62398 - 10/02/03 11:47 PM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#62399 - 10/02/03 11:56 PM
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#62400 - 10/03/03 02:09 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Edited by willys (10/03/03 02:18 AM)
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#62401 - 10/22/03 12:12 AM
Re: 557 STROKER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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thanks for all suggestions and help guys feel free to keep dropping lines
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